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16 February 2018

Mont Order Questions and Google Searches Answered by L'Ordre (@LOrdreNet)


14/02/2018, 20:45

The following are emailed questions and Google searches by internet users trying to find out more about the Mont Order group. Now you get the answers from L'Ordre (using the handle @LOrdreNet on Twitter), a close friend of the Mont Order group. The following answers were jotted down here in the United Kingdom on Wednesday evening, aiming to satisfy your curiosity about the Mont Order once and for all.

Google: "mont order"

The Mont Order has a couple of different meanings. The first is the older one, referring to an alleged group from the dawn of time that supposedly knew the future. Conspiracy theorists have posted quite a few bits of sensational information about that group. I don't know anything more about it than they do, but it is interesting. The second meaning of the Mont Order's name is the group I've been active in since a small cooperative publishing effort I tried in 2013. So the digital group is maybe only 5 years old and quite small. It convened for the first time via online video conference in February 2015, that's 3 years ago. Since that time it has expanded quite a lot on social media and has strong relationship to a number of alternate media websites where we hope to influence world opinion. It is done out of hope. I hope we can create effective contributions to the dissident sphere in the US, UK and other Western countries and have a constructive impact on popular opinion, particularly skepticism with regard to the state and its narratives. One of the best descriptions of the Mont Order would be that it is a product and information sharing society. As creators, we share our products. As readers and analysts, we share information.

Google: "mont order society"

Yes, sometimes the Mont Order is referred to as the Mont Order society. Of course, that isn't some kind of longer official name of the group. It is a good description, though. As I said, we are a product and information sharing society. We are like a "society" or "association", but I view it all more as a list of contacts. I hope we can all be closely aligned, but in practice that is not always the case. I do believe that whatever collective sharing of stories does occur through the shared accounts, whether on Twitter or elsewhere, has a definite positive impacts on our collective reach, influence and credibility. Such activity has only grown so far, although I am pessimistic about the long-term prospects of an association being gathered and run on social media. You might say it is the norm now for societies to digitize themselves and become online forums, but I think something more enduring is needed. For the foreseeable future, our "society" will continue to survive by dispersing its influence through several independent media outlets, despite growing pressure on such outlets by hostile governments and corporations seeking dominance in the information space. I hope we and our friends win on this information front, but history often has other plans than what we desire. I am constantly thinking about other fronts that can be used to meet the needs of dissidents but it is far too early to talk about them and no-one else is yet talking about them, either.

Google: "mont order secret society"



Sure, some online work-spaces of the Mont Order are locked down for members only. The group itself is clearly not secret, so the description of "secret society" would seem to be inaccurate, unless there is another group using our name that does not reveal itself.

"Learn"

You can learn all you need to about the Mont Order by using the subscription links available and reading information pages held at the Mont unofficial information site lordre.net and sympathetic websites. Also just search using Google to see if your query has already been answered.

"I subscribe to the Facebook group and read the articles as they are published. Would like to understand more about Mont Order and it's (sic) people"

There is really not much more to show. We do have work-spaces for members only, but you would need to be a member to see them. The subject matter of the Mont Order is obscure for most people. The only significant barrier to learning about us is not knowing we exist in the first place. Once you break that barrier, you can pretty easily find everything you want to find.

"I’m someone whose (sic) very intrigued by your work! And i would like to learn more if you would grant me the opportunity"

To really learn more, the best way would be to just join the Order. A Mont Order online course at openlearning.com even exists for this purpose. Following the whole process would not only allow you to really learn who we are and what we do, but also allow you to influence us and help decide the course of our actions. We are very open to anyone who can demonstrate a keen ability to decipher world events, with particular interest in politics and technology. But to be accepted as a member, you really need to have some product or privilege you want to share with us. That is really what glues the group together. If you have a book or a blog that aligns with ours, that is absolutely what we are looking for.
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9 March 2017

Mont Order group appears in fantasy art


An artist at the image-sharing site DeviantArt has produced pictures themed on the Mont Order, with many portraying sword-wielding monks in a fantasy-like style.


The images make the Mont Order comparable with the Jedi knights of the Star Wars films, although the artist may have had something more "sinister" in mind. Some internet users skeptical of the Mont Order group have described the (allegedly) ancient order as something right out of a "bad movie plot". Although these pictures will only strengthen that idea, they certainly look epic enough to belong among your favorite all-time internet searches.


Ferocious-looking demons are portrayed being battled by a devout, humble warrior we can assume to be a knight or other devotee of the Order. A caption reads that the Mont Order has sent its men willingly through the gates of hell, as they were so driven to fight to the death against evil forms. Other pictures portray a "civil war" with one robed figure set against another. The story being told is not clearly something related to the real Mont Order group.


The real Mont Order "society" can be read about and even joined by people at LOrdre.net, with participation at a Facebook group and inclusion in exclusive email lists possible through the Mont Order. It doesn't look anywhere near as exciting as the image below would seem to suggest, however.


Members are not being given cloaks, Lord of the Rings style suits of armor, or swords at the Mont Order, but you may get a free badge and a surge of social media influence if you are part of the society.


For more weird fantasy pictures of the Mont Order, it's well worth adding the gallery of this DeviantArt user to your favorites and reusing the pictures, as these images are free to use under a Creative Commons license.
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16 August 2016

Mont society includes Kevin Carson

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The Mont Order society includes Center for a Stateless Society (C4SS) writer Kevin Carson on its lists as of 14 August. Writings by Carson are henceforth a key part of the feeds promoted by several Mont services and pages.


Kevin Carson's "free market anti-capitalism", the mission of the Center for a Stateless Society, combines hopes for popular social and technological liberation as captured in books such as The Homebrew Industrial Revolution.

Among the demands advised by the anti-statist commentator is the view that artificial scarcity, intellectual property and mandatory high overhead enforced by states to benefit monopoly capitalism must all be abolished. The state colludes with capitalists, liberals and the "vulgar libertarians" of the political right to create an environment in which a leaner, more efficient economy cannot develop.

Of course, such abolition need not be imposed from above. The people in general can circumvent corporate monopolies, in much the way pirated software is shared and movies uploaded to online services such as Putlocker.

It isn't hard. Thanks to the widespread adoption of personal technologies, apps, and internet sites, everyone's lives are connected. Creators are connected without the need for owners and masters.


Even better, the costs for success in media have declined so substantially that, starting in this "immaterial" realm people can already reject and build alternatives against large brands. Networked organizations can outmaneuver hierarchic ones, and even the costs of physical production are declining so rapidly that eventually a real-world economic revolution in manufacture and delivery of goods will take place.

With the lies and pillars of modern industrial civilization being gnawed at by the "smart rats" once described as such by Julian Assange, governments in the West will descend further into crisis. As they rot away, they will be replaced by a stateless, tolerant and anti-authoritarian culture.

While not all Mont Order friends are likely to endorse such ideas, they boost the existing counter-state dissident credentials of the Mont Order in a Western context.

Visit Kevin Carson's articles at the Center for a Stateless Society


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17 May 2016

Mont Order-related research available

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Research into the writings of Jean-Paul Marat in 1774  and their possible reapplication in the modern world has been made available at Dissident Voice and other websites and pages of the Mont Order society.


Quoting Marat's 1774 book The Chains of Slavery at length, the L'Ordre essay relates strongly the origins of the Mont Order's legendary name in the chaos of the French Revolution. As such, it is an attempt to guide the Order and keep its overall philosophy in concert with its origins and associations.

Some conspiracy theorists believe the Mont Order and the Montagnards who created the French Republic and executed Louis XVI before apparently disappearing into the chaos are one and the same.

Theories aside, the L'Ordre essay is an authentic Mont Order document at the Dissident Voice publication, and does express great interest in the revolutionary rhetoric responsible for inspiring the French Revolution. It calls for this to be reapplied in the modern world, with western democracies having gone astray and failed to accomplish what the French and American Revolutions hoped to do.

Jean-Paul Marat was a French physician, journalist and key influence on the "Mountain", who became a martyr of then-new liberal nationalist ideas following his assassination in 1793. Marat lived with a debilitating skin disease, often in exile and hiding in sewers to escape persecution during his political life, while he ran the dissident newspaper The People's Friend.

In its conclusion, the Mont Order essay asks the Order's members to emulate Marat. "Being strongly related to the Mont Order association's own name and hopes, Marat is an ideal role model", L'Ordre argues. Dissidents should therefore be encouraged to be powerful, awe-inspiring individuals who "act bravely against the unproven government and international system" and in Marat's words, "bring the ax to their root" when it comes to dealing with injustices.

Notable differences between the Mont Order and the French Revolutionary thinkers include a lack of interest in patriotic nationalism, with this being archaic in a high-tech modern environment with everyone connected through the internet.


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1 March 2016

'Mont Order not an organization'

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A post to unofficial Mont Order website lordre.net asserts that the Mont Order is not an organization.


The post, made on Saturday 27 February, also refutes the idea that the Mont Order group has a "security council" anymore. It is posted by L'Ordre, the social media handle of one friend of the Mont Order.

This follows a global audio conference that had been planned between Mont Order associates. The discussion did take place between six Mont Order friends and has been made available as an audio track via YouTube. The discussion has been released for reasons of recording the Order's own recent history, rather than being published in any particular viewer-friendly form.

Saturday's L'Ordre post on the Mont Order appeals to the real nature of the Mont Order as an urban legend, a metaphor and a pluralistic gathering rather than an official organization. At present, the Mont Order is an entirely digital gathering loosely bound together only by a 7-point code of values from 2015. This code, the post mentions, could be delivered in book form to some Mont Order friends.

The message that the Order is no normal, formal organization with a set agenda has been put forward before. In "Organizing without Organization" it is made clear that the Order does not follow traditional management, rules or see any need to have its own model organization. Instead, in principle, the name and idea of Mont Order are simply applied by professed friends of Mont by achieving consensus on defining world events and ideologies.


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23 February 2016

Mike Dodd's Mont Order conference

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The Mont Order society has held a recent new conference convened by Wave Chronicle Editor, Mike Dodd.


Six participants attended the Mont Order conference, which is the largest known Mont global audio conference since the new circle of globally scattered activists and commentators calling themselves the Mont Order emerged in recent years.

As shown at lordre.net, the attending Mont Order members were as follows:


Participants' individual websites can be visited using the links provided above.


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2 February 2016

US wars condemned by Mont brother

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An apparent brother from the enigmatic Mont Order has emerged to offer moral and political condemnation of the neocon criminal regime in the United States.


Writing in an exhaustive comment post at his blog on Saturday, Mont member code-named Naughteeis slammed wars, corruption and lies emanating constantly from the American government. Particular focus is given to the Washington regime's war crimes and its attempts to vilify foreign powers and groups to distract the American people from its own brutality.

Preserved from the comment are some of the best quotes we have gathered, and appear below:
"Washington's culture of spectacle and fraud and abuse of power never listens to anyone but their masters who own this country... 
"Real Capitalism would let the fraudsters fail and crash and burn, that's why the idea of free market capitalism is a myth... 
"...when the Warsaw Pact was dissolved NATO had outlived its original purpose and now has become the major belligerent in the world... 
"It's the same old game, [it's] as old as time itself, divide and conquer by creating as much chaos and instability as possible. We keep reinforcing and justifying their hatred for us with our Exceptionalism... 
"Although Washington is the most active with their manufacturing of weapons of destruction and distribution of these weapons around the world, the UK, France, Germany and Russia all arm the world with their modern weapons too... 
"Our government is the perfect definition of insanity. They keep repeating their same old game over and over again hoping for more chaos and death and destruction than the time before... 
"The ones who own this country, the ones who really run this country, the Military Industrial Complex (MIC) and the Deep Police State (DPS) hiding behind the curtain of Government"
The Mont Order has codified, maintained and promoted its new seven-point code of values since its global video conference in October 2015.


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22 January 2016

'Criticize, don't support' - L'Ordre

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The last L'Ordre commentary on the new code of the Mont Order is available, talking about "the power of information" and urging bloggers to exercise maximum independence.


Political parties and leaders create vulnerabilities in potentially strong movements and causes, while powerful institutions tend to play along with other power structures rather than remaining effective critics, the commentary states. It is advised that bloggers should not become defenders of some popular political figure or movement, but rather pursue an independent course in criticizing states, institutions and corporations.

Some political figures appear to be better than the others to many alternative media commentators and bloggers on the political sidelines, as Jeremy Corbyn in the UK and Bernie Sanders in the US may seem. However, it is important to stay aware that such politicians can create false hopes, disappointments, and ultimately discredit not just themselves but the people who had zealously supported them.

If they are a magnet for support and they actually get elected, they would only vacuum up the future attention of (former) dissident writers who could have spent their time better criticizing the established state and its unpopular policies.



Look into our five earlier reports on the Mont Order code commentaries below:

On the first point
On the second point
On the third point
On the fourth point
On the fifth and sixths points

The sixth commentary addresses only the seventh point in the Mont Order code, and aimed to declare the Mont Order's official neutrality in democratic political campaigns, debates and disputes. The Order, as stated in the quotes below, is completely invested in the power of online information and other circulating products of modern technology rather than political organizations and careers.

  • "If alternative media simply tie themselves to political alternatives, such as Corbyn or Sanders, they are sacrificing themselves for these men and their political careers rather than seeking out their own type of power. The power of information, like the power of money, may, in fact, be greater than the power of politicians."
  • "Someone who has squandered their credibility and the demographics of their readership by backing a political candidate will not be able to see the full extent of the power of information."
  • "There is a tendency [in the youth] to instead support campaign issues [rather than political parties], as is enabled through internet searches and campaign groups dedicated specifically to these issues that can be found rapidly online."
  • "While Julian Assange and Edward Snowden are icons of this organic campaign emerging from society, they are not leadership figures. They preside over no organization. And yet, if we look at those men and the issues associated with them, we see forces much greater than the political opposition parties in some countries."
  • "They [political parties] need to win elections, whereas pressure groups can get what they want without capturing state power."
  • "Politicians and parties are transitory as always, but the will to power – the will of the hungry and the oppressed to get what they need — is something that can crash through to the halls of power without ever declaring a formal organization at all."
  • "People are bigger than their parties and their leaders, and should think bigger."

L'Ordre, "Nonpartisan Media Power", Dissident Voice, 19 January 2016


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19 January 2016

Referendums can prevent war: L'Ordre

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Covering both the fifth and sixth points in the relatively new Mont Order code, which was crafted in late 2015 for the internet age and its new forms of voluntary cooperation, the fifth commentary from L'Ordre has been made available.


Appearing at Dissident Voice, the Mont Order website and the Wave Chronicle, the written commentary talks about imperialism and national liberation movements seeking irredentism, contrasting the two sides' different ethics in international territorial disputes.

According to the commentary, which represents the views of the L'Ordre accounts online and not the Mont Order society itself, the borders of states are not sacred and can indeed be legitimately changed if there are popular movements and referendums approving such changes. This, the commentary says, is what really happened between Russia and Crimea despite the protests of Washington and its allies.



Please read our earlier reports on the Mont Order code commentaries by L'Ordre:

On the first point
On the second point
On the third point
On the fourth point

The fifth commentary addressing points five and six of the code can be read at an unofficial Mont Order website, lordre.net, sometimes used by Mont members to post content. The site seems to be a prime source for people researching background information on the Order, which is a subject of various paranoid suspicions and conspiracy theories among some opponents.

  • "There is, however, no hypocrisy in criticizing the Western powers and their allies exclusively while supporting foreign powers such as Russia, Iran and the Syrian Arab Republic. This is a very consistent position, and has to do with the difference between imperialism and national liberation."
  • "Today, the only power using force against civilians near Crimea is the Ukrainian central government, which rejects what it calls separatism."
  • "Whether or not one thinks of Russia as a democracy, the right to self-determination via a referendum like the one in Crimea is supposed to be the cornerstone in the legitimacy of a modern democratic state."
  • "In the audio version of the discussion this point is based on, postcolonial nationalism is deemed to be sufficiently different from imperialist nationalism and exceptionalism that it is worth all people supporting it as a form of freedom struggle."
  • "The answer is simply that one type of identity politics, the one driving imperialist policy and racism, is founded on the theory of superiority rather than the theory of liberation."
  • "People such as the Palestinians, the Kurds and the people of Kashmir have been denied their political rights for a prolonged historic period and the only possible conclusion to the territorial disputes in question can be democratic referendums."
  • "In respected Western media sources, we hear constant justifications of “territorial integrity” and “the right to defend itself” in territorial disputes and the suppression of national liberation struggles. Such language is designed to maintain the status quo"

L'Ordre, "Imperialists or Irredentists", Dissident Voice, 12 January 2016


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5 January 2016

US incites global chaos: friend of Mont

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The anticipated fourth commentary from Mont friend and writer L'Ordre, is now online and addresses the corresponding point in the Mont Order code.


Like the other two articles, the L'Ordre commentary has been published to the widely circulated progressive newsletter Dissident Voice, where previous commentaries already address their points of the Order's code.



Our earlier reports on the Mont Order code commentaries by L'Ordre:

On the first point
On the second point
On the third point

You can read the fourth commentary itself at the unofficial Mont Order website lordre.net, which is sometimes used by Mont members to post content. However, if you are low on time, the best items from the commentary offering unique judgments are recorded below.

  • "This so-called new world order, for all the enemies it has attracted, could have been a good thing. The concept of uniting the whole world in a single global society, however it may be accomplished, is not a bad thing."
  • "The US saw only its own bloated image when it thought about the future of the world, and set about imposing its own will on others without asking their consent."
  • "If actions speak louder than words, then the US is not taking humanity forward to a united global polity."
  • "In the Middle East, the US strategy is even more divisive, attempting to co-opt and bribe even the smallest tribes and sects to attack the cohesion of stable governments."
  • "The worst offense of all is the devotion to the myth, as rejected in the Mont Order code, that Islam is inherently plagued with extremism and sectarianism."
  • "The claim that Syria, Lebanon and other states are experiencing mutual warfare between Shias and Sunnis is untrue."
  • "From Syria to Ukraine, the US policy consists of incitement to civil war, thereby retarding human development, subverting the goals of the United Nations and disrupting projects to unite the world in peace."

L'Ordre, "On the Fourth Point of the Mont Order", Dissident Voice, 30 December 2015


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3 November 2015

Mont Order new philosophy goes public

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The Mont Order society has scaled back its fixation on being an organization, and is now more of a value-based club with a declared set of principles and autonomous members who act with or without blessing from above.


Background: The Mont Order's unofficial conspiracy

As always, the overarching priority at the Mont Order society of writers and publications is to promote its members and their agendas. This has not changed, but the model of the group has been reformed slightly to put more energy towards supporting individual members and stop using the group as a vessel that requires its own devotion or resources.

This change can be understood from what little content was actually made public after a long conference among the Order's top members. The content takes the form of a short set of written values on cards, which can be seen at the Order's unofficial press release archive "lordre.net" and also in a video originating at the Wave Chronicle. The Wave Chronicle is a leading publication associated with the Order.



The released content for the public contains a code with seven values that the Order will not withdraw, and which sum up the philosophy or ideology guiding the present plans of the Mont Order. Of these, the second may be of the greatest interest to readers of The clubof.info Blog.

"Principle Two" declares to the world the Mont Order's most unique attribute, which is its open glorification of technological modernity, regarding it as the origin and future of the Order:

The Order accepts positive and popular globalism based on the inevitable trajectories of technology to unite disparate people across borders. Our own identity is closely tied to events in the world, mainly involving technology, as the internet enabled this group to exist. We see how technology is escaping its creators' designs and we celebrate this trend, which has also empowered us. However, we oppose with absolute conviction the neoconservative and neoliberal views of some major tech corporations including Google.

As shown, the Order has a powerful understanding of what it is and where it is going. It could be that some of the slower and less efficient features of the modern Mont Order may soon disappear, as the Mont program of values is acted upon and expounded for the foreseeable future.


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